This conversation happened before The Landline existed—before we knew we’d become creative partners. But even then, we could feel that storytelling would be at the center of whatever came next.
In honor of Sexual Assault Awareness Month, we’re sharing it again. We talked about what it took to write Pack Light, how we care for ourselves through the creative process, and what it means to tell stories that don’t have clean endings. It’s one of our most tender conversations—honest, unfiltered, and rooted in our commitment to surviving out loud.
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